Thursday, February 3, 2011


"Indianapolis police say they arrested Thomas Hardy in the shooting of Officer David Moore, who was shot in the face and body and remained in a coma."

Officer Moore , who has now unfortunately died , stopped Mr. Hardy on Sunday at 3400 Temple Avenue . Hardy , apparently on his way to settle a dispute, fired at Moore 4 times.

Reports state a rash of fatal killings of officers lately:
"ST. PETERSBURG, Fla. – The slaying of two police officers as they helped serve a warrant stunned a state already mourning police deaths in Miami and capped a bloody 24 hours nationwide that saw 11 officers shot in five states."
January 25th 2011

The figures for the cop-shot public do not seem to be gathered from around the country and totaled together in the same way as the police deaths.

While I imagine one might pull out 'twilight language' ad nauseum a few pings on the sonar do resound.

Thomas Hardy , novelist and poet , married first wife Emma Lavinia GIFFORD. His father was a Stonemason while Temple Ave. doubtless remembers the 'Ur-Ben Planners'.

The shooting of Officer Moore took place on Temple Ave. though the map gives only N. Temple Ave while the red marker claims Temple Ave. as a semicircular footpath , unasphalted. Parallel to N. Temple Rd the arch-masonic N.Keystone Ave. . Keystones play an important part in constructing arches and within Freemasonry doubtless has a symbolic significance.

N. Keystone , E 46th St., and Binford Boulevard create a large triangle or symbolic pyramid , while N.Temple, Binford Blvd. and E.45th St. create a smaller triangle , an entrance, perhaps.

J.S.DOWNARD has become well-known for his investigations into a Masonically-directed assassination of JFK via the work KING KILL 33. Less well-known is that his father held a patent for an asphalt paving composition. Asphalt proves a major component in Masonic Geo-tesselation and the consequent entrapment of humanity in vast magically-inclined cityscapes, which many call home.

The street-names seem innocuous enough, they're so numerous, so essential that they go unnoticed. Some may groan that another loaded street name marks another murder-spot. Newer cityscapes [ as in the US] do tend to blocks and grids, occasionally an inspired cityscape will feature owls and pentagrams as DC. Grids and blocks do away with the humanity of curves; edges make the people edgy. The streets gain reputations and accumulate certain energies that attract and live off the locals.

DUMBING DOWN [ Forever stylee]

Armed with an education

I get the idea that US parents have to save a good amount of money for a many years to be able to pay for their children's education. Savings either get pocketed by the 'bad economy monster' leading to the child not getting a good job and subsequently joining the forces or a crime-org. Parents must be fortunate.. If they bypass the various pitfalls of legal economic threat [ changing the value of $ by printing more etc] get your child into college, who while there will face a fresh series of pitfalls [ getting shot by fellow students, date-rape [ real case or false accusation], not too much debt] . Then , a graduate, leaving to begin a career , finding options low and/or the workplaces boring, authoritarian, office psychology, eventually joins the armed forces, police force, prison services, or other growth industries [ do NOT even think about starting your own business they'll just tax you to kingdom come, as in flying a plane into the side of a building]

Nevertheless , the US trooper may feel that he has the academic qualifications to label the enemy ' dumbass, uneductated etc.

An extract from " Death Made In America " by Mohammed Daud Miraki MA. PhD at the ' The peoples '

"The Afghan resistance fighters consist of Pashtuns, entirely. The East, Southeast, South and Southwest, West and part of Central area of Afghanistan are the most volatile. The US forces have lost a lot of soldiers there. In fact, ordinary Afghans used to wondered about the US losses and started to believe a myth that the soldiers that are killed in Afghanistan must come from orphanages in the US, hence, their death is not missed by anyone. To the Afghans, it does not make sense when so many soldiers lose their lives and yet there has not been any outrage on the part of the families of those soldiers. Thus, ordinary Afghans started this myth that the soldiers that are killed in Afghanistan are from orphanages since this was the only rational explanation they could find."
"The most powerful political organization in Kalifornia over the past three decades?

The Prison Guards Union. Number Two isn't even close."
"By 1996 there were more than l40,000 prisoners in California. The average salary for California prison guards is $44,000 per year (well over $50,000 with benefits)-$ l 0,000 more than the average teacher's salary. Prison guards require only a high school education and a six week training course. Most teaching jobs require at least an undergraduate degree in education." [ article from 1995]
Acc. to one source the prison population has increased 73% since 1990. I assume a few people, cognizant of their economic and social position join the army to avoid the possibility of a jail sentence or being tazered . At the very outset the career advisor will make the student aware of the hard work that goes into teaching, a thankless task [ as the curriculum proves dumber and dumber, teaching for grades not for intelligence], slowly being overtaken by admin. duties versus turning up at the local , super-modern prison, uniform, utility belt, benefits, stability, job-for-life.
"In three decades, the California Correctional Peace Officers Association has become one of the most powerful political forces in California. The union has contributed millions of dollars to support “three strikes” and other laws that lengthen sentences and increase parole sanctions. It donated $1 million to Wilson after he backed the three strikes law. And the result for the union has been dramatic."
"In California…the prison guards’ union has been one of the leading advocates of getting tough on crime. The result of this policy has been a dramatic increase in both the size of the state’s prison-industrial complex (from 12 prisons in 1980 to 33 in 2000) and the pay of the people who run it (prison guards in 2006 made $70,000 a year in base salary and $100,000 with overtime)."
"Whilst California might arguably be seen as a 'liberal state' despite having a Republican governor, the result of mandated sentences that came about during the 'war on drugs' has seen the US prison population quadrupling in the past 30 years. In comparison, sentences for offences such as violent crime and property crime have actually declined.
As a result of their drug/prison policy, the the United States has the highest documented per capita rate of incarceration of any country in the world.
A report released in February 2008 indicates that more than 738 per 100,000 adults in the United States are in prison. By comparison, the incarceration rate in England and Wales was 148 persons imprisoned per 100,000 residents; the rate for Norway was 66 inmates per 100,000 and the rate in New Zealand was 186 per 100,000.
With the US prison system costing the country $60 billion a year, with the average cost of incarceration per prisoner costing $23,876 per year, or $65.41 per day, perhaps instead of shipping the problem to Mexico, the state should look at how to reduce those numbers."
One of the ideas is to incarcerate illegals in Mexico. Its not unusual for inmates to escape en masse from Mexican jails


The steep increase begins at 1980 and continues to 2006.

Jared Loughner wanted to join up but his offer was declined for admitting to smoking marijuana. Honesty - the kind of thing u might want in a soldier. Loughner so readily described as nut-job, loser, loner etc etc plies honesty , gives up weed and booze. Eventually it all gets to him, he wants to be a part of the US. But as we can see from above Jared's weed smoking has him marked as a future con in the prison industry. And so he is. no wonder he wears that daft grin , he knows he's crazy but the society he attacked doesn't realize it's salivating from the corner of its mouth , so comfortably numbed. [ Ideas about Loughner's mental state purely hypothetical]

'Put down your weapon'
'Its a stick '
' Its an unauthorized stick, assume the position'



What Jared might have been trained to do had he been accepted.

Smokes weed , can't join up and kill civilians in an illegal , invented war. The psycho-soldier, conscience-free, detached, kills unarmed people.

From DENNIS's comment in preev post ' to satisfy the drug cartels [ Afghanistan/Mexico] and play a passion play for the Masons…' ties in both the war the US engages in abroad [ Afghan] and the encroaching invaders [ Mexico]. It may be debated whether the Mexicans feel they're invading or not, as there is some political and nationalist motivation for emigrating to Southern US/North Mexico. The US is the most democratic [ thus allows immigration] state yet the world's moral police officer [ thus drone-deathing Afghanis etc].


A quick aside -
BNY [ ben-eye] means 'sons' as in BNY BRYTh - Sons of the Covenant.
BNAY [ ben-eh-eye] doodles forth - 'mason, builder' . Its followed directly in my Hebrew dictionary with -
BNAM - 'internationalize' [ BN = Son, AM = Mother, Ma]. Also interesting is that AM , one letter on [ In Hebrew and Latinate alphabets] = BN.

A bit below a photo from SAFEWAYS , a fire-engine , officers, victims to the fore. In the reports it allegedly took the medical services 30 minutes to reach the scene, despite the Medical centre situated directly behind the shopping centre. The Taxi driver claimed the roads were quiet and that he passed police cars, sirens on, on their way to the crime-scene.
In the background a notice The Golder Ranch Fire Service resides just off N. Oracle Road [ north of Safeways] on East Golder Ranch Road, itself crossed by North Bowman Road , and as we know a Dr. David Bowman gave medical assistance at the scene. His namesake being Dr. David Bowman , the main character in '2001; A Space Odyssey. Coming to aid we have double 'Bowmans' .

Twixt N. Oracle and N. Bowman scoots TWIN LAKES DRIVE . 'Lough' means 'Lake' via Irish Gaelic, and by proximity to water German ' lach' means 'healer' which paralleling to Bowman 'Chiron' and Bowman ' 2001' implies a whole hoot a healin' by the water' going on. I assume Loughner like many killers of this ilk attempt to 'heal' what they feel proves sickly.

Cleanse via blood baptism

ORACLE > EL CARO , the expensive; the cherished

A famous Bow'man' = the Zodie Sagittarius, a centaur which then twins with CHIRON, the healing centaur, here pictured teaching Achilles in the use of a bow.
Loughner, etymologically, means 'healer', while Achilles got dipped in the Styx held by the heel and then a bowman shot an arrow into it which killed him. He would have survived the head shot being death-resistant everywhere else.

A Heel and a Healer

' Mind the heel, Chiron!'
" Sorry mate, no feeling in m' feet!'

More Healing
In the background a sign reading 'GET YOUR FLU SHOT HERE……TODAY!' yet layout-wise spills:


First off the damn SWINE FLU , as in Swine Flew, as in 'Pigs will fly' as in 'as if!'

Deeper, we remember Jared's new bird on his shoulder with 3-foot Eagles wings - FLU HERE and he sure SHOT TODAY. His writings have been dismissed as basically a sign of 'madness' though look around at how poetry and literature have evolved in the past 150 years versus those remarks and x-ty thousand internetters]

Let;s go with - Jared's murders were of such import that he got an image from it, [ yes I know it was in the future] of the word FLU, but the dreaming mind translated it as FLEW and snuck in avian imagery.
Also his hairlessness [ bald eagle], the 2-ft beak being the shots taken at close-range, the bird neither male nor female , but both him and Giffords.

Not only that the graphic designer of the notice's layout may have radared an inkling judging by his choice of spacing with the typography.

From Wiki: Ezra Pound -

' "Neither can anyone learn English, one can only learn a series of Englishes. Rossetti made his own language. I hadn't in 1910 made a language, I don't mean a language to use, but even a language to think in."
He understood that to change the structure of your language is to change the way you think and see the world.'
Perhaps this is what the Stat-Quo is subtly aiming at - accept the 'Speak', do not change your language , do not change your mind, do not change yourself - do not self-govern.
Bad grammar gonna git ya thrown in the slammer!!

No probs having the Frankensteinian pop-stars busying themselves with star-spangled , blood-spattered amputate and their on-stage alter-egos [ I am Sasha Fierce, croaks the Queen Bee enslaved Bouncy Knowles with her Rainman-infested literary-lite 'us-bund Jay-Z , be' jay-zus!]

MICHIGAN [ tenuous connexions]
Glancing at a map of Amerka , Lake Michigan and environs stood out while musing over Loughner's bird with its 2-ft beak, perched on his shoulder. His bird is surreal. Seeing Michigan for a brief second a birds head with beak hovering over the cleft-head of the other half of Michigan. The cleft-head also suggesting Mrs Giffords, and biblically the antichrist

Ambiguity to the idea of Loughner's 'location'

"There's something important in this video: There's no communication to anyone in this location.
You shouldn't be afraid of the stars.
There's a new bird on my right shoulder. The beak is two feet and lime green. It's with one large red eye with a light blue iris. The bird feet are the same as a woodpecker. This new bird and there's only one, the gender is not female or male. The wings of this bird are beautiful; 3 feet wide with the shape of a bald eagle that you could die for. If you can see this bird then you will understand. You think this bird is able to chat about a government?
I want you to imagine a comet or meteoroid coming through the atmosphere."

Descent of the Dissenter

. The Michigan outline doesn't give the wings. Michigan means 'Large Lake' from Ojibwe ' mishigama'.

Bird-beak coastline in puppet form
which heralds GONZO journalism and the drug and hedonism fueled observations of Hunter S. Thompson's landscape

Here's their seal [ acc. to Act 19 of 1963] showing at centre a lone gunman saluting before the rising sun
Out of many, 1 [ lone gunman]

"The wings of the bird are beautiful; 3 feet wide with the shape of a bald eagle you could die for"

Brown-hooded, praying' to the setting sun

Once the flag has burnt all that's left is the stick bearing some resemblance to the hooded hunter's rifle in Michigan's seal.

Dintcha have blue eyes?

Yessir No!

" ...a bald eagle YOU could die for....'

Acc. to the above post around 30 people [ in the US] are shot by police every month
"On the basis of recent trends, we can assume that two dozen or more Americans have been shot by police since January 1, 2011. In the same period, roughly half that many police have been shot, 11 of them either injured or killed during one unusually bloody twenty-four-hour period. This unconnected series of shootings has led many police officers to believe that they are targets in a “war on cops,” and that alarmist impression has been diligently propagated by police union officials who are always eager to exaggerate the very modest dangers of their profession."

UG![Unoriginal Gangster]

"Most of the potentially dangerous encounters between police and the public grow out of their roles as enforcers of drug prohibition and armed revenue collectors (those roles overlap, of course). Those dangers will grow more acute as the economy continues to sicken and people who have done no harm to others start to lose patience with the demands of the wealth-devouring class.

Rather than abating their demands and ratcheting down the conflict, however, those in charge of the State clearly intend to escalate it, making whatever use they deem necessary of all of the charming instruments of regimentation and mass violence originally developed for use overseas."

"The rarest bird on earth,

there's no feathers, but small grey scales all over the body."
Brooding over Daley Plaza

Why not?
Chicago's becomes the President's city in 2008, a rising star. Apparently monies were transferred out of NY to Chicago on or around 9/11.

Look what a-loomin' ova Dealey

Rahm Israel Emanuel - son of ex-Irgun Benjamin J. Emanuel , [ thus integral to the 'greening of Israel'] , now a paediatrian and Marsha Shmulevitz , daughter of a Chicago union organizer and now a Psychiatric Social Worker, may be seen by some as indicative of an Israel-1st caucus emerging in Masonic America :)
His candidacy was rejected as he hadn't been resident there while in D.C.,[ yes he served the IDF and holds Israeli citizenship, but , heck, who's counting] but this was reversed on Jan. 27th , which is now Holocaust Remembrance Day [HeRoD for short], which 'holocaust' though remains elusive. I wasn't aware that the holocausting was over yet, but for some I guess it is.
At some point during his high school years, while working at an Arby's restaurant, Emanuel severely cut his right middle finger on a meat slicer. He sought medical attention only after suffering severe infection from swimming in Lake Michigan and as a result of the wound, the finger had to be partially amputated.

A kinda symbolic circumcision/initition. Even looks a bit like half of Michigan

"On the night after the 1996 election, "Emanuel was so angry at the president's enemies that he stood up at a celebratory dinner with colleagues from the campaign, grabbed a steak knife and began rattling off a list of betrayers, shouting 'Dead! ... Dead! ... Dead!' and plunging the knife into the table after every name."

If u wanna be a psychopath , get elected!

'Put my fuckin' name on the baaaaallllloooooootttt'


Anonymous said...

Very detailed and interesting!

- Aangirfan

Eleleth ר ק D said...

Elvis' first #1 was "Heartbreak Hotel", which is a song about loneliness. ("I'm God's lonely man.")

The lyrics were based on a report in The Miami Herald about a man who had destroyed all his identity papers and jumped to his death from a hotel window, leaving a suicide note with the single line, "I walk a lonely street".

Dead animals in January, culminating in Giffords as the Beast. The Pharaoh of Egypt is about to lose his throne.

Elvis had a twin brother who died at birth; Tuscon/two sons. Charlie Sheen (Hebrew shin, spirit), brother of King Kilelr Martin Sheen, was suddenly in the news.

Alex Robinson said...

Sorry, couldn't help myself ...
The pic you posted of Manuel of the chic Argo - brought two celebs two mind;

There'a a definite air of Hillary to the horsey pic

Great word play with heeling of Chiron

Keystone = Key notes / Key tones - was reading a Nedgar Allen Poe tale last night - he was into crypto as well as crypts - noted his use of words 'note' & 'tone' in the same sentence & wondered ..


aferrismoon said...

Cheers Aang.

Eleleth - PKdick had a twin sister who died 6 weeks after their birth.

The Pharoah - I notice the desecration and subsequent protection of the dead mummies.

The Phaoronic age doesn't seem to have passed, or after a blip of original Islam slipped back into Dynasty-ism. This will suit the Israelis as they can pretend to be the oppressed Hebrew running to the Promised land.

I guesss he mighty lose his throne or rather the throne , still in situ, will lose another temporal occupant.

It seems that our western democracies will foist as much 'crap' onto these Arab nations to hide the fact that our Pharaonic dynasties are somehow democratic, despite that western countries have nearly as much Ancient Egyptian artefacts dotting the landscape as Egypt itself.

We're still there in Khem but with Laptops.

Welcome TWO the Ma-Sheen

Hi Alex - Chiron and the Heel Achilles - I didn't even know they worked together.

Key-bored :).

Also Richard Keys [ and Andy Gray], football commentators were fired by Murdoch for making 'disparaging remarks' off-air about a female linesman [ the one who runs up and down one side of a football pitch waving a flag] - I thought ev'so moral Murdoch didn't like 'Key's tone'.

NOT-ET-ONE - not and one

cheers for the genetically-spliced 'family members'. I reckon they've been doing it for years


aferrismoon said...

Eleleth - Heartbreak Hotel was released on Jan 27th - now Holocaust Remembrance Day and when Rahm Emanual got reinstated on the Chicago ballot


A. Peasant said...

ferris, here's a link you might want to check out.

i found it in a comment at Saladin's place, voice in the wilderness.

Eleleth ר ק D said...

The War on Terror is the hunt for "Bin Laden," or, literally speaking, the rich (laden) Son (bin/ben).

Loughner's bird is the alchemical Hermaphrodite, and hence the phoenix. Woman is Form and thus Maya; hence Giffords is the Image of the Beast. The Healer as the Iconoclast. Kill Yr Idols. Moses destroys the idol and frees the slaves of Egypt. This seems to be happening in reverse order.

Travis Bickle talks to the Secret Service agent in Taxi Driver and claims to be interested in joining. But that "daft grin" makes me think more of Pvt. Pyle in FMJ. Bickle is obsessed with cleaning the scum from the streets; Pyle is in a world of shit. He says this while sitting on a toilet, the place where Elvis the Sun King ingloriously died. Napoleon (Apollyon) was defeated at Water-Loo.

Also note fellow Sun Records recording artist JERry LEE LEWis, JLL. "PKdick had a twin sister who died 6 weeks after their birth." A clear foreshadowing of PKD's "two source cosmogogy" in VALIS.

TWO SOURCE COSMOGONY: The One was and was-not, combined, and desired to separate the was-not from the was. So it generated a diploid sac which contained, like an eggshell, a pair of twins, each an androgyny, spinning in opposite directions (the Yin and Yang of Taoism, with the One as the Tao). The plan of the One was that both twins would emerge into being (was-ness) simultaneously; however, motivated by a desire to be (which the One implanted in both twins), the counter-clockwise twin broke through the sac and separated prematurely; i.e. before full term. This was the dark or Yin twin. Therefore it was defective. At full term the wiser twin emerged.

The two sons evoke the two Eyes of Horus--as illustrated by David Bowie's dual-colored eyes.

George Sodini was another man for whom the loneliness got to be too much.

aferrismoon said...

Cheers AP, will check it out

Hi Eleleth,
Pyle does come pretty close. Like many pulling on an identity much seems to emerge from a movie composite freewheelin' around the brain.

And Mr. Loughner appears to have dual coloured eyes , tyhat is 2 blue , 2 brown , re: the pics of him.


little dynamo said...

mr loughner was not acting on his own cognizance

N. Bowman Drive, plus med responder AND 2001 protagonist both named David Bowman

David slew Goliath, who represented the remnant of the antediluvial "giants" in the earth -- the annunak/gibbor "half-breeds" whose sistem enslaved, oppressed and devoured humans

relates directly to yr observations on the US Prison Industrial Complex, and to US view that scapegoating, criminalizing, and caging more males constitutes economic "salvation"

the Drug War is merely a subset of the New Woman Order, whose rise in the late nineteenth century forward exactly paralells massive caging of boys and men

new millennium, same giants! lol

"Take up your positions around Babylon, all you who draw the bow. Shoot at her! Spare no arrows, for she has sinned against the LORD" (Jer. 50)

"I assume Loughner like many killers of this ilk attempt to 'heal' what they feel proves sickly."

nothing to do with what jared "felt" was sick, but what in fact IS sick, and much worse, cunningly and proudly evil

"The cleft-head also suggesting Mrs Giffords, and biblically the antichrist"

she is an official representative of the antichrist sistem, gyno/gulag, and michigan snuggles next to ill-i-noise, the New Babylon Nexus of our current "leaders" -- amerika's resurrective Second City, the "rising star" as you say, with its v own Daley/Dealey plaza of goddess-law .... michelle robin-son, pharaoh, VAWA joe biden, and rahm recently coveting mayorship

p.s. it's hilarious that rahm thinks he's a tough guy... he is SO demon-strative :O)



aferrismoon said...

I think Rahm probably feels a little inadequate compared with his terrorist Dad and his Union-affiliated Mom.

Michigan implies 'lansing a boil'

The Chicago malaise, its famous wind whips a stench through the streets and alleyways

How can u say GG is rep of the antichrist cystem, her smile is soooo appealing.

Her spacebund will jet off earth, doubtless meeting up with a contact from the higher-archy.

Somehow Egypt has to slot on somewhere, Barack-MuBarak , the twin pharoahs


little dynamo said...

"I think Rahm probably feels a little inadequate compared with his terrorist Dad and his Union-affiliated Mom."

yeah she belongs to the same Union that Mr. Bickle correctly identified (the one everybody pretends doesnt exist)

"inadequate" agreed is the operative word, and rahm's behavior an obvious compensation for same

equally evident in obie and joe biden, btw -- both carrying an eminently tractable psy-profile ... bush jr. was also manipulated likewise

"Somehow Egypt has to slot on somewhere, Barack-MuBarak , the twin pharoahs"

ya feef! darned if you didnt scoop me again on this lol, i was gonna plop that in my next post, moo-barack vs mubarack, so many uh choices here on Planet Hathor

all Moo all the time!

Catal Huyuk baybees, it's deju vu all over again



Loren Coleman said...

One could say that Muhammad Hosni Sayyid Mubarak is "toast."

aferrismoon said...

Hi Ray - sorry to scoop your pickings.

'Hey Pilgrim, this is cattle country an' these steers is headed direc' to Dendera'

John Wayne meets Mubarakhenaton.

The Mooing ushers in the Ancient LeMUrians

Mu - The lost continent of Mu Motherland of men , apparently.

The Justified Ancients of MuMu or the JAMs links to Mr. Coleman's 'TOAST'

Politics = Inadequacy Central Sta. with connexions to the Self-Importance line which is in fact just a giant lobby.

LC - I'll drink to that!

Also BE-AST and TO-AST, with Ast as a spelling for Isis.

aferrismoon said...

Ray - check this story , the last line is the clincher


A13 said...

Hi Aferrismoon.
Wow, Arcane, Fantsmagorical and eerilly True.
I do like what you write here.
I can "feel it in my bones"

Hope you don't mind if i put you up on my blogroll?

Cheers A13

aferrismoon said...

IUAWTC - no worries, shall reiterate.

The Media - 'a scorpion morass scuttling through our minds. Creatures to step on.


little dynamo said...

Ray - check this story , the last line is the clincher

that link's expired/deleted AF


aferrismoon said...

"We always felt that something was a little strange," said Sharie Kinney, a neighbor.

To them, he was Jay Shaw, who worked as a graphic designer from home and was known for fixing computers. He raised about a dozen cows and lived in a light green two-story home on a hilltop with his girlfriend, who moved out of the house several months ago with their two small children.

To the FBI, he was a New England mobster who vanished in 1994 after a botched attempt to kill his boss.

Ponzo now faces charges from a 1997 indictment accusing him and 14 others of racketeering, attempted murder and conspiracy to kill rivals. He is also charged in the 1989 attempted murder of Frank Salemme. Known as "Cadillac Frank," Salemme is the ex-head of the Patriarca Family of La Cosa Nostra.

Authorities declined to say how the FBI discovered him. During his arrest Monday, agents seized 38 firearms, $15,000 and a 100-ounce bar of either gold or silver from the home.

Neighbors say Ponzo moved into the community, which sits at the base of the Owyhee Mountains in southwestern Idaho, about 10 or 11 years ago. He told some he was from New York, and to their ears, he had the accent to prove it. But he told others that he was from New Jersey.

Bodie Clapier, a rancher who lived next door, remembers Ponzo said his parents were killed when he was young, and that he had no other family.

"My dad just said, one time (Ponzo) was telling him, `Yeah, I was in the military and 15 of us got blown up and I was the only one that survived,'" Clapier said. "Well, isn't it weird that the number of people that were indicted was 15? ... Isn't that kind of bizarre?"

Some details that once seemed strange now fit together like a puzzle.

"Every time I talked about a gun he'd say `I've got one of those,'" said Clapier, who went out with Ponzo to shoot guns on a hot September day last year.

Clapier and his son came away impressed.

"After we got in the truck and were leaving, (his son) said: "Man, that guy knows how to handle a gun," Clapier said. "When he go up to shoot it was just: Boom! Boom! Boom!."

Other details now seem chilling.

"We got in a big argument one time about something. I kind of told him `You know what Jay, just get out of my face. I don't want to talk to you.' But then he came right back the next day smiling and said: `It's ok,'" Clapier said. "I feel like I dodged a bullet. Literally."

Ponzo was arrested at the entrance of the subdivision, where he served on the board that regulates the water supply. Federal agents took him into custody on Monday afternoon, just as children were coming off the school bus, neighbors said. Ponzo later called from the Ada County Jail in Boise, Clapier said.

"He said `I've been arrested, it's all a bunch of bulls---, but I'm going to be in here for a long time. Would you please feed my cows?'"


Associated Press writer Mitchell Schmidt in Boise contributed to this report.